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Re: New Season

By GrandadB - League Admin
1/27/2024 3:25 pm
No worries Phal, I understand your frustration, playing the game with full play selection and spreading out the calls has been easier for some to adapt than others and I know you've been workin on it. When you lose an important game to someone who is doing the opposite, whether on purpose or not, its maddening. "Optimum 4.6" is not on you, lol, it's my name for limited play calling using data extraction and analysis. There has been several posts in the Com Forum Help section about what plays and personnel/formations provide consistently the best results, which is not hard to figure out if you play enough anyway. The good news is that those who are working at are now hitting or exceeding the goal of 30/20 per game. The only other diversity aspect is the secondary coverages, where its a challenge to mix in the ones other than 1 deep, 2 deep, and man, followed by the secondary blitzes. Understandably, you dont want to use 4 deep when you are not in more of a prevent situation. 3 deep is also limited, and targeted for pass coverage. All in all, it has been worth the effort to play the game this way, the FCS League was the first, and based on the feedback and having several players in the other leagues preferring to play it that way, I expanded it to my other leagues. Not everyone likes it, Ive had several drop teams, some did because they could not figure out how to set it up. Hopefully one day in the near future, it will be included in the code and programming along with a lot of other needed improvements.

Re: New Season

By Gscorpio
1/27/2024 3:31 pm
I have adopted a mixture of the two to be honest. I have set in the suggested rules to hit diversity of plays called, but I do not use one play out of every formation simply because there are some formations that do not suit the play style I am wanting my teams to adopt, or the two or three plays that are given to me based on the offensive scheme of my HC simply are not successful. With that being said I have been pretty consistently hitting 23-28 DP and 32-36 OP and only a couple of times this past season has any play been called more than 4 or 5 times in a game. It's not that I am not wanting to conform its just that I am hitting the preferred diversity calls while using the more successful plays that my team can run.

Re: New Season

By Redneckgopher
1/27/2024 8:05 pm
tbh I typically only concern myself with my team. Occasionally I will look at opponent or if I notice during watching the game. Losing playoff games I usually am watching a bit closer to film and will see it then. Hence the comments I made a few posts back. I do agree with and enjoy the spirit of the game and what we are trying to do with diversity.

With that said I just do not have time to invest looking closely at other teams very often. heck I am lucky to make a few tweaks during the season and it's been awhile since I have done any "all out gameplanning" even for playoffs. I just do not have that much time to invest in the game nor the desire. Most I do is take a peek at the upcoming opponent when we do the mandatory "scout" and when I select the top 10 plays. There we can see if the opponent was running 45 "3-4 Man 1 Zone in" plays, or some such thing it is only telling me he did that his previous game. Doesn't mention whether he has made corrections for the next game. So I usually do not adjust my own plans. As well that once we have a reasonable setup to our own diversity it would be a shame to see it all collapse during playoffs adjustments even small adjustments can have a large impact in this.

If JDB would provide us with a bit of simple scouting tools, where I could quickly, click,click,click and view any team last game in the same format that I can view my plays on O/D it may make it a bit easy to both scout our own progress as well as any other team. I have no idea how to make it so teams at least give a try. I would not want to dump all that work to league admin where he has to go to spreadsheets unless there are some consistent indications that a team isn't trying. I have sent a pm to league admin previously and he has acted on it. I do not envy that job and I am sure he is passionate but also frustrated

It would be nice if we could have a bit more customs controls where admin could set up min play selections required from each group or something like that and then have a bias that will slightly favour plays not yet used while still keeping the % bias we select with our sliders. But we dont have this so we will continue to persevere

The way my teams are set up I do not and likely will not have 2 different game plans.

I appreciate everyone here who has made this fun, challenging as well as frustrating to achieve.
I've learned a lot from everyone here. Now go win one for the George Gipp

Re: New Season

By GrandadB - League Admin
1/27/2024 10:29 pm
One thing I like is seeing the 4 & 5 WR plays used, they became a thing of the past before the diversity effort. And they havnt done too bad from what Ive seen. And, when scouting, Ive been surprised at plays, both on offense & defense, that have better performance averages than before. Some of that is probably due to familiarity gained. Personally, I like seeing plays and formations that I was not seeing before, as the play selection kept reducing based on average and advantages. Either you cut down your play selection to match the top teams or you would consistently get beat. There were more repeat league champions and same teams in the playoffs each season, not many if any surprises. But, even with a good variety and spread in the play calling, Ive noticed that a consistency of winning teams across the 4 leagues. I dont know how much the roster has to do with it, especially QBs, lol. The roster is right up there tho, especially the type of players and the weights you use. I think the play selection and offense setting for the 4 types of plays is still the dominant factor.
Last edited at 1/27/2024 10:32 pm

Re: New Season

By IoanBlood
1/29/2024 2:33 am
GG GrandadB

O 30/40
D 21/30

Several overuses in defense. I'll try to tweak that next season

Re: New Season

By Vikings_Fan
1/29/2024 3:39 am
GG Cougars.

Offense = 30 / 40
Defense = 26 / 30

Side note: I lost my top TE to what is likely to be a season ending injury in the previous game (questionable status, out 7 weeks). I played this game with two competent back up TE's. That got me to thinking about the fact that there are several teams in this league that roster only one TE. If one of those teams were in my shoes with a significant TE injury, but their TE was their only TE, what would league rules and/or guidelines advise them to do to fill the position? I inquire presuming that it would not be acceptable to use a RB or WR at the TE position as is generally true in leagues that require a standard roster configuration as this league does.

Re: New Season

By IoanBlood
1/29/2024 6:05 am
Vikings_Fan wrote:
GG Cougars.

Offense = 30 / 40
Defense = 26 / 30

Side note: I lost my top TE to what is likely to be a season ending injury in the previous game (questionable status, out 7 weeks). I played this game with two competent back up TE's. That got me to thinking about the fact that there are several teams in this league that roster only one TE. If one of those teams were in my shoes with a significant TE injury, but their TE was their only TE, what would league rules and/or guidelines advise them to do to fill the position? I inquire presuming that it would not be acceptable to use a RB or WR at the TE position as is generally true in leagues that require a standard roster configuration as this league does.


In my opinion it would be appropriate to use a FB or OL.

Re: New Season

By GrandadB - League Admin
1/29/2024 9:13 am
IoanBlood wrote:
GG GrandadB

O 30/40
D 21/30

Several overuses in defense. I'll try to tweak that next season


That one goes in my books as one of the worst PO beats, lol. That fumble when we had the game won was almost as bad as Detroits vs the Niners yesterday. GL rest of the POs.

Re: New Season

By trslick
1/29/2024 12:41 pm
GG Montreal

Re: New Season

By casualcnote
1/29/2024 8:49 pm
GG Bennington. Good luck the rest of the way.