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Re: New Season

By Phaldun
1/26/2024 3:14 am
GrandadB wrote:
When you scout the other team and you see that they have been not been in compliance with the play selection and diversity rule, then you are also free to go to the same level. Which is why its a good idea to have a gameplan saved that you can switch in and out. I also advise players to pm the other owner and let them know they are not in compliance based on your scouting. Other than that, the only recourse is to boot those who either dont want to or dont care whether or not they are in compliance. Fortunately we dont have more than one or two who are that far out of compliance.


Oh.... so that means that we dont really have to do any of this variety stuff. If Gray Ghost gets a pass on the rules, then nobody here really needs to follow them. Next season I will go back to the other way then. Wish you would have told me we didnt really need to do this sooner.

Re: New Season

By Phaldun
1/26/2024 3:15 am
Good game Casual Note of Montreal. Good luck the rest of the way in the playoffs.

Re: New Season

By GrandadB - League Admin
1/26/2024 7:38 am
Phaldun wrote:
GrandadB wrote:
When you scout the other team and you see that they have been not been in compliance with the play selection and diversity rule, then you are also free to go to the same level. Which is why its a good idea to have a gameplan saved that you can switch in and out. I also advise players to pm the other owner and let them know they are not in compliance based on your scouting. Other than that, the only recourse is to boot those who either dont want to or dont care whether or not they are in compliance. Fortunately we dont have more than one or two who are that far out of compliance.


Oh.... so that means that we dont really have to do any of this variety stuff. If Gray Ghost gets a pass on the rules, then nobody here really needs to follow them. Next season I will go back to the other way then. Wish you would have told me we didnt really need to do this sooner.


The point is that you should want to do the full play selection and diversity, and hopefully grey will adapt or get kicked, I like to give someone a chance to figure out how to comply, even those who dont like the concept. Im sorry you havnt won the LC every friggin season. You dont like the league, then leave. As I stated before, when you play grey or anyone else, and your scouting shows limited play use, then use your old Optimum 4.6 limited play scheme, its as easy as that. Then you wont have full play selection and use to blame for losses.

Re: New Season

By Redneckgopher
1/26/2024 10:33 am
GG Red Rocks
Good Luck

O=30 (4/5 WR called 12 times) (ovr 1@7 1@6)
D=25 (1 over @6)

1-Deep Man -called 16 times
2-Deep Man -called 11 times
3-Deep Zone -called 7 times
4-Deep Zone -called 0 times
Corner Blitz -called 6 time
Safety Blitz -called 8 times
2-Deep Zone -called 2 times
Man -called 11 times
3-Deep Man -called 7 times
4-Deep Man -called 2 times

reasonably happy with the Def diversity, however out of my 76 Off plays, opponent used Dime 12 times only vs my 4/5 WR sets, all the rest were Normal Def Backfield so not so much diversity
Last edited at 1/26/2024 10:34 am

Re: New Season

By casualcnote
1/26/2024 2:01 pm
GG Boston. And thanks.

Re: New Season

By GrandadB - League Admin
1/26/2024 2:27 pm
Redneckgopher wrote:
GG Red Rocks
Good Luck

O=30 (4/5 WR called 12 times) (ovr 1@7 1@6)
D=25 (1 over @6)

1-Deep Man -called 16 times
2-Deep Man -called 11 times
3-Deep Zone -called 7 times
4-Deep Zone -called 0 times
Corner Blitz -called 6 time
Safety Blitz -called 8 times
2-Deep Zone -called 2 times
Man -called 11 times
3-Deep Man -called 7 times
4-Deep Man -called 2 times

reasonably happy with the Def diversity, however out of my 76 Off plays, opponent used Dime 12 times only vs my 4/5 WR sets, all the rest were Normal Def Backfield so not so much diversity


That is an excellent review and effort RNG, thank you. You're getting more use of the least used coverages than others including myself, than the 3 most used coverages (1 deep man, 2 deep man, man). Sorry to hear your opponent was not diversifying the defense and using Dime and Normal only. There are a few, who are still locked into the previous limited play selection method, it is very difficult to get them to change. Especially so if they have rules that reduce the diversity. Using the Dime vs 4 & 5 WR formations is recommended, but at least mix up the coverages. I knew there would be resistance by a few to this way of playing, so I cut a lot of slack in the hope that they will come around. Best thing we can do is let them know, not just by me but by others when they scout and/or review the play selection and use.
Last edited at 1/26/2024 2:29 pm

Re: New Season

By Phaldun
1/26/2024 10:23 pm
GrandadB wrote:
Im sorry you havnt won the LC every friggin season. You dont like the league, then leave. As I stated before, when you play grey or anyone else, and your scouting shows limited play use, then use your old Optimum 4.6 limited play scheme, its as easy as that. Then you wont have full play selection and use to blame for losses.


Grandpa, what in the world is going on with you? I adapted and worked to change everything you needed in this league this season for your diversity rules. You know what kind of owner I am on here and am 100% positive everyone understands that I am not angry or crying because I didn't win the ELC again this year. You know damned well that was B.S. Another false thing you stated is something about Optimum 4.6 limited play scheme and I have no idea what that is because I never used it. All I do know is that every time I played you in those championship games, all of my plays were well balanced. I have never been a fan of over using plays like 15 -20 cause I dont think the simulation would let it work.

Its actually quite shocking that instead of confronting those who are obviously not following the rules here, ya lil sissy, you go and somehow flip out and get mad at me when Im the one who worked hard to adapt to what your asking for here. I think the real reason you are angry with me is that every single time I faced you in the LCG, I always won......and I think your just being a little child about it.

Your diversity rules are great and interesting, but not when it comes to the playoffs or important late season games and your opponents skiffs the rules to win. Gray Ghost is a way more experienced veteran than I am and probably better overall. So if I can adapt to what you need in one season, why can't others?

Grandpa, you were my first mentor on MFN. I have always had your back when so many others on here might complain about you, but now I understand why. You want to implament these diversity rules until the code fixes it, I get it I am on board. But here is the kicker gramps, in every single league where you implament these diversity rules, you are always there at the top, and if you didnt win it you came close. So lets not focus on what so many others have told me here when you want to have game diversity rules... and work the league in a way where you will always be on top. I have defended you against these folks and whispers... and now I understand that they were absolutely correct about you.

Now I am glad Gray Ghost has exposed you in one of your own leagues. I respect him for not following the rules, only to prove that when these rules are not followed, you are too sissy foot to do anything about it.
Last edited at 1/26/2024 11:11 pm

Re: New Season

By IoanBlood
1/27/2024 6:49 am
Hello all.
First I should say that I support Phaldun's comment in some ways. But I have to reject the "accusation" that GrandadB is playing with unfair means, since he is at the top in all of his diversity leagues, because I try to make my game plan as balanced as possible in the spirit of diversity, and I am also one of the top scorers in all of his leagues.
However, I fully support Phaldun on one point: If one or more players simply do not want to follow our rules, then please be consistent and kick them after a warning.
Last edited at 1/27/2024 6:50 am

Re: New Season

By GrandadB - League Admin
1/27/2024 11:04 am
One of the reasons that I started the full play selection and diversity was to show JDB that there were a good number of players who preferred more of a RL football simulation. There's no way to get a full simulation, but a better one is preferable, at least in my opinion.

At this point, it appears that we have a solid majority of team owners who are conforming, not all prefer it. There are one or two players that are way out of compliance, and I have not removed them from the league, I would prefer to see suggestions and positive ideas as to how to improve the game instead of complaints and name-calling. I would also be more than happy to transfer the League Admin to someone else, if they have the support of at least 3 other owners. Overall, my hope for the game is that JDB will put full play selection and Ai coach control of the diversity in play calling as a league option or better.

Re: New Season

By Phaldun
1/27/2024 12:02 pm
Ive always respected you Grandpa. You still havent told me what you mean by saying, My Optimum 4.6 limited play lists. Come on you know me. I have never been an owner to use only 5 plays on defense in any league, or that WR2 slant play 12 times to crack more big chunk plays off. You are indeed one of the best players on MFN, so those times when I defeat you in LC Games, and then you say its because I used the 4.6 Optimum, well it sounds like you are saying that I didnt really didnt win. Anyway, Im looking forward to see who wins it all this season.
Last edited at 1/27/2024 12:11 pm