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Re: New Season

By Phaldun
5/24/2024 11:26 am
Also, respectfully, A year or so ago Grandpa offered to pass Elite League Admin over to me, but I guess I got scared and declined. Well if Grandpa is not able to be active, and the offer is still there, then I would accept it now.

Re: New Season

By GrandadB - League Admin
5/24/2024 2:47 pm
Vikings_Fan wrote:
GrandadB -

As our League Administrator, please weigh in. It is my understanding that teams should not be using WR at the TE position and should not be using WR at the RB position in this league. Is that correct? (There was a discussion awhile back when teams had all of their TE's injured or else had their only TE injured and it was noted that only a FB or an O-Lineman could fill in for a TE.)


That is correct, no WR at TE, and please PM anyone who is doing it, and note them in the forum here. My apologies for not being more involved at this time, Ive lost a lot of interest in the game since the big change to subscription but no change in the gameplay mode. It is now almost impossible to require adherence to league rules other than informing the person that is doing so, otherwise we get another AI managed team and the league gets closer to going under. This is the only league that I am in now, and am doing so as a way to stay on here and seeing what evolves, if anything. Thanks to those who do their best to get play diversity and use, it should not have to be a manual job, it should be in the game code and automatic, but for some reason, that is too difficult for JDB to include at this time. My hope was by showing the level of interest in full play selection and use, that he would include that as an option for league admins. Apparently, that is difficult to add to the game code.

Re: New Season

By Phaldun
5/24/2024 6:33 pm
Hey Check this out for the game that just simulated against the Lion Kings. I was easier able to use most plays selected rather than with all 40. What do you think?

Offense: 30/32
Defense: 18/25

Then, depending who the opponent is, one could easily switch strategies by deactivating, and then activating different plays week to week. Activating all 40 just diluted the gameplay too much I think.
Last edited at 5/24/2024 6:40 pm

Re: New Season

By Vikings_Fan
5/24/2024 7:08 pm
Phaldun wrote:
I really like the No WR at the TE positions to get the mismatches, but I don't mind the WR switching to the RB position, or vice versa, as long as we actually switch their positions to the pertaining position. Some receivers **** at being a receiver, but might still have high ball carry and anti fumble abilities so that is a good conversion from WR to RB. Certain situations would be understandable.


I agree with Phaldun that WR's should not be used at RB unless the WR has officially switched position to RB. Using a WR at RB without officially changing their position is just an attempt at game manipulation (speed bias) which is contrary to the realistic football experience we are trying to promote here.

There are a number of MFN leagues that allow WR's to play the RB without officially changing positions citing the "Deebo Rule." However, when we look at real NFL statistics, we find that Deebo Samuel of the San Francisco 49'ers is actually an outlier "exception", not the "rule."

In the 2023 NFL season, there were only two WR's listed among the top 100 in yards rushing. Rondale Moore, WR playing for the Arizona Cardinals last year, rushed 28 times for 179 yards (ranking 93rd). At 5' 7" and 181#, Moore was running the ball only in "Jet Sweep" situations. At 6' 0" and 215#, Deebo Samuel rushed 37 times for 225 yards (ranking 79th).

Neither of these outlier examples compel a league that is trying to simulate a realistic football experience to change rules so that all WR's can function as RB's.

Re: New Season

By GrandadB - League Admin
5/25/2024 8:45 am
WR at RB/TE/FB has been an on-going debate between those that dont care what the roster looks like or the stats and those that do, as far as more of a RL simulation goes. I prefer the roster to be more of a simulation and a challenge to find good players based on their primary positions and/or convert the players. The speed factor has always been an issue, as far as how much the player trait affects the play. This is especially a key factor for RB. Why use a top first round pick on a RB when you can get one out of the FA pool with 90 speed that most of the time will have as good as or a better avg per carry? On defense, its using CBs at all positions other than DT. My preference is like the play selection and use requirement, make it automatic, take it out of the owners hands, same as salary cap and roster minimums.
Last edited at 5/25/2024 8:50 am

Re: New Season

By Phaldun
5/25/2024 6:36 pm
Glad we are having good discussions about this. So in my experience with MFN, whatever gameplan Im striving to create, it just gets watered or too diluted if I have 40 plays selected. Same thing for Defense.

I had 32 plays selected and had 30 of them called.......and the intended gameplan I created for the Lyon Kings game came through with reasonable results. I also successfully had the coach call a well diversified game plan. That's the only way I believe I can stay even Competitive in this, and hopefully, other leagues too.

Re: New Season

By IoanBlood
5/27/2024 3:45 am
As far as I noticed an average 30 to 35 offensive and 20 to 25 defensive plays will be used out of your 40 activated plays per match. However, during the full season all 40 respective 30 plays will be played for a certain amount.
Therefore the given rule (40/30) should not be changed.

Last game:

O 34/40
D 21/30
Last edited at 5/27/2024 3:47 am

Re: New Season

By Vikings_Fan
5/27/2024 7:31 am
GG Envy.

Game #11 (2053 season)

Offense = 33 / 40 (1 x 6)

Defense = 27 / 30 (1 x 5)

Re: New Season

By wolfie
5/27/2024 12:39 pm
good on your side mine not so much lol , my stats are as follows
Off - 30 out of 40 , 1-7 x's , 1-6 x's rest 5 or less
Def - 24 out 30 , 1 - 36 x's :( , 2 -8 x's , 2 -7 x's and the rest 5 or less
i just cant seem to get it even some of ya all have given me tips :(

Re: New Season

By Phaldun
5/28/2024 11:09 pm
Ok, just spread it all out with 40 selected offensive and 30 selected defensive again. Its the Bandits so it might, or might not, be too exciting for me. ;P