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Re: The 2033 Thread

By cyclonelomax
9/25/2020 6:12 pm
GG Andrew ,good luck in the playoffs

Re: The 2033 Thread

By andrewjolson71
9/28/2020 11:37 am
cyclonelomax wrote:
GG Andrew ,good luck in the playoffs


GG and thanks! Unfortunately, I can't beat the Dragons in the playoffs. Only in the reg season...

GG Grandad! Good luck the rest of the way!

Re: The 2033 Thread

By GrandadB
9/28/2020 1:16 pm
andrewjolson71 wrote:
cyclonelomax wrote:
GG Andrew ,good luck in the playoffs


GG and thanks! Unfortunately, I can't beat the Dragons in the playoffs. Only in the reg season...

GG Grandad! Good luck the rest of the way!


Thanks AJ, you've done a great job with the "Rocks", and our game was a coin flipper, we got the breaks/favorable sim in the end, gonna need a lot of luck vs the Geeche's, the Dragons have become a perennial bridesmaid, like the Bills with Kelly.

Re: The 2033 Thread

By GrandadB
9/30/2020 8:29 am
Congrats Geeches and Mr 4343, that was the Ricardo Shaver show on your defense. Im going to be looking for a new defensive end playing tackle like him, Ai default rating of 59, 80+ speed, accel, pass rush, run def, sub 20 tackle and strip .... classic case of Ai rating being way off. Originally, he was a SAFETY, drafted by the Crush in round 7, then converted to DE. Amazing performance for a 253 lb DE at the DT position, 9 tackles & 8 sacks! and a number of pressure/hurries. My weights have him at 74, 15 points higher, but my new weights will prob have him at 80!

12 SACKS total for the Geech in the game for - 127 yards! and a safety. Has anyone looked at the league player stats?
Shaver led the league with a paltry 55 sacks!! Next best was 15!! by a 276 lb DE.

Shaver was up against a center with only 12 speed, and RG with 53, which isnt bad, but its obvious that a new "exploit" has been exposed, 55 sacks is ridiculous. The 46 Heavy and 43 Flat were used exclusively, other than the GLs, and all were Pass Key. There was no overuse penalties on the excessive use of the two defensive plays. Its a great defensive scheme, Im going to use it also, and pass it on to as many others as I can, its the only way to be able to compete against another team using it. Only when enough people start complaining about it will JDB change the code to get the game closer to simulation.
Last edited at 9/30/2020 9:01 am

Re: The 2033 Thread

By GrandadB
9/30/2020 10:03 am
Well, apparently enough people have been complaining about it, lol.

By jdavidbakr - Site Admin
9/30/2020 8:47 am
Yes, it has been the focus actually of the next version. I was hoping to have it ready at the end of the most recent MFN-1 season but there are still a few kinks to work out, hopefully this season will prove that it is ready to release to all leagues.

Re: The 2033 Thread

By CrazyRazor
9/30/2020 10:48 am
GrandadB wrote:
Well, apparently enough people have been complaining about it, lol.

By jdavidbakr - Site Admin
9/30/2020 8:47 am
Yes, it has been the focus actually of the next version. I was hoping to have it ready at the end of the most recent MFN-1 season but there are still a few kinks to work out, hopefully this season will prove that it is ready to release to all leagues.


You can thank setherick for discovering & optimizing this exploit.

Re: The 2033 Thread

By Garrok
9/30/2020 4:55 pm
GrandadB wrote:
Congrats Geeches and Mr 4343, that was the Ricardo Shaver show on your defense. Im going to be looking for a new defensive end playing tackle like him, Ai default rating of 59, 80+ speed, accel, pass rush, run def, sub 20 tackle and strip .... classic case of Ai rating being way off. Originally, he was a SAFETY, drafted by the Crush in round 7, then converted to DE. Amazing performance for a 253 lb DE at the DT position, 9 tackles & 8 sacks! and a number of pressure/hurries. My weights have him at 74, 15 points higher, but my new weights will prob have him at 80!

12 SACKS total for the Geech in the game for - 127 yards! and a safety. Has anyone looked at the league player stats?
Shaver led the league with a paltry 55 sacks!! Next best was 15!! by a 276 lb DE.

Shaver was up against a center with only 12 speed, and RG with 53, which isnt bad, but its obvious that a new "exploit" has been exposed, 55 sacks is ridiculous. The 46 Heavy and 43 Flat were used exclusively, other than the GLs, and all were Pass Key. There was no overuse penalties on the excessive use of the two defensive plays. Its a great defensive scheme, Im going to use it also, and pass it on to as many others as I can, its the only way to be able to compete against another team using it. Only when enough people start complaining about it will JDB change the code to get the game closer to simulation.


Gotta be honest, these kind of exploits have almost run me out of MFN.
At some point you have to evaluate the value of spending hard-earned free time with people who think this kind of strategy is good for the game/community.
Once you run everyone else out of the game you'll be left with 10 other exploiters, not even enough to run the daily spin.
[/rant]

Re: The 2033 Thread

By GrandadB
9/30/2020 7:12 pm
Garrok wrote:


Gotta be honest, these kind of exploits have almost run me out of MFN.
At some point you have to evaluate the value of spending hard-earned free time with people who think this kind of strategy is good for the game/community.
Once you run everyone else out of the game you'll be left with 10 other exploiters, not even enough to run the daily spin.
[/rant]


Can understand your feelings on that along with a lot of others playing this game. At least JDB is moving forward on a correction, in the meantime I would suggest having a counter gameplan in hand specifically dealing with any team/owner who is using it. That way you can load it for the game and then switch back to your normal, non-exploitive game plan. I will see about adding a SS or LB, then convert to DE/DT, with the mentioned attributes, and will keep that player on ice until I run into a team that is using the 250 lb DTs. The only other option is to have a league rule enforced by the LgAdmin, like we do for the punt block and other exploits. The rule would address minimum play use and minimum weight for DL.
Last edited at 9/30/2020 7:20 pm

Re: The 2033 Thread

By CrazyRazor
9/30/2020 11:57 pm
GrandadB wrote:
Garrok wrote:


Gotta be honest, these kind of exploits have almost run me out of MFN.
At some point you have to evaluate the value of spending hard-earned free time with people who think this kind of strategy is good for the game/community.
Once you run everyone else out of the game you'll be left with 10 other exploiters, not even enough to run the daily spin.
[/rant]


Can understand your feelings on that along with a lot of others playing this game. At least JDB is moving forward on a correction, in the meantime I would suggest having a counter gameplan in hand specifically dealing with any team/owner who is using it. That way you can load it for the game and then switch back to your normal, non-exploitive game plan. I will see about adding a SS or LB, then convert to DE/DT, with the mentioned attributes, and will keep that player on ice until I run into a team that is using the 250 lb DTs. The only other option is to have a league rule enforced by the LgAdmin, like we do for the punt block and other exploits. The rule would address minimum play use and minimum weight for DL.


CJfred & raidergreg already have rules covering this exploit in their leagues. I believe jgcruz does as well.

Re: The 2033 Thread

By 4343
10/01/2020 2:47 am
GrandadB wrote:
Congrats Geeches and Mr 4343, that was the Ricardo Shaver show on your defense. Im going to be looking for a new defensive end playing tackle like him, Ai default rating of 59, 80+ speed, accel, pass rush, run def, sub 20 tackle and strip .... classic case of Ai rating being way off. Originally, he was a SAFETY, drafted by the Crush in round 7, then converted to DE. Amazing performance for a 253 lb DE at the DT position, 9 tackles & 8 sacks! and a number of pressure/hurries. My weights have him at 74, 15 points higher, but my new weights will prob have him at 80!

12 SACKS total for the Geech in the game for - 127 yards! and a safety. Has anyone looked at the league player stats?
Shaver led the league with a paltry 55 sacks!! Next best was 15!! by a 276 lb DE.

Shaver was up against a center with only 12 speed, and RG with 53, which isnt bad, but its obvious that a new "exploit" has been exposed, 55 sacks is ridiculous. The 46 Heavy and 43 Flat were used exclusively, other than the GLs, and all were Pass Key. There was no overuse penalties on the excessive use of the two defensive plays. Its a great defensive scheme, Im going to use it also, and pass it on to as many others as I can, its the only way to be able to compete against another team using it. Only when enough people start complaining about it will JDB change the code to get the game closer to simulation.


Sorry, I had no intention using the DE exploit. When I took over the team this season, I got DE Shaver as a FA. I never payed attention to his weight(I never check the weight on any player, as I am used to the kilo system) and use him as LDE in the depth chart.
This season I have spent very little time on this game, so I only check the results and no stats. I did not know he had so many sacks. I will turn him into a LB next season.